Coffee Nevermore?

Would We Have Coffee With Edgar Allan Poe?

Cammy:  I’ve never been a Poe fan, outside of a slight soft spot for the “Tell Tale Heart.”  The whole dark, macabre subject matter just doesn’t usually appeal to me.  Also, he married a 13 year old, which, by the time he was around, was already creepy.  That said–I want to have coffee with him, morose and slightly off balance though he may be.  90% of this has to do with the preview I saw today for some kind of horror flick tied to Poe and “The Raven.”  Watching the preview, I had to wonder what Poe would think.  Because while there’s plenty of dark and horrific subject matter in his work, he never seemed to me to be going for the kind of cheap thrills you get in the never ending list of shitty gore-or films that are forever pouring into theaters.  Would he find it as craptastic as I do, or would he be intrigued?  Given that he was also into cosmology and cryptography (further topics for potential nerd discussion), I tend to think he would probably take a dim view of the shitty horror thing.  All in all, I think that conversation with him is bound to be at least interesting, as long as we can keep him away from the bar and he can avoid being too depressed/crazy to chat.

Kristy: Yes. I’ve spent enough time teaching the man’s work I feel like I ought to. Also I’ve always admired his work stylistically, even when I haven’t been that enamoured of the subject matter (my opinions on the macabre have gone back and forth a few times). This was a man who understood the craft of writing. With that in mind I’d like to hear his thoughts on the current state of popular literature. Like Cammy I’d like to hear his thoughts on contemporary horror. Did he avoid “going there” because of social constraints of his time or was his style of horror a more deliberate choice. I like to think he’ll find contemporary horror to be a bit cheap in its use of gore and superficial emotional content. I also want to ask him all those nerdy English major questions: How autobiographical is his work? Who was the subject of “Annabel Lee”? We know his biography was distorted after his death, but how much? If nothing else I should get some great material for future lectures.

Coffee With…Ada Lovelace

Cammy: Would I have coffee with one of the Patron Saints of Girl!!Geeks the world over?  Hell, yeah.  Ada Lovelace (actually Augusta Ada King nee Byron), born 10 December 1815, was the only legitimate offspring of Lord Byron.  Within a month of her birth, Ada’s parents were separated.  Ada never had a real relationship with her father, something that suited Ada’s mother just fine.  Momma was so concerned that Ada might harbor the insane poet tendencies of her father that she insisted Ada receive education in mathematics, science and logic. This is the kid whose Mom would have shit a brick if someone gave little Ada a “Math is Hard” Barbie.

All this laid the foundation for something amazing.  Something that every woman who’s ever dealt with the chauvenistic ass-hattery of the male-dominated computer science lab:

Ada Lovelace is the worlds first computer programmer.

She corresponded with various and sundry scientific minds of the time, including Charles Babbage, who originated the entire concept of the programmable computer–his “Analytical Engine.”  Italian Mathematician Luigi Menabrea wrote a paper on the Analytical Engine which Ada undertook to translate.  In doing so, she added her own notes in an appendix.  The notes (which were longer than Menabrea’s paper itself) contained Ada’s detailed instructions for calculating Bernoulli’s numbers on the Analytical Engine.  This set of instructions is the first computer program.

The woman is straight-up, undeniable street cred for every woman who’s ever had her presence in the lab questioned (yes, it happens, even today).  For this, I owe her coffee.  Or a beer, or the most expensive wine available at the bar.  And naturally I want to pick her brain about her opinions on women in math and science.  Would she be appalled that we’re not further along on this front?

Kristy: This might be a situation where I’d be more comfortable sending her a nice bottle of wine anonymously from across the bar.  Because everything that Cammy just said about her street cred and badassery is absolutely true.  And I’m, personally appalled that we haven’t made more progress on the women in science front.  Because as many women as have made amazing achievements in the field, I know from my friends that they still get treated too often as second class in the science field.

On the other hand, I outright suck at math and science.  And I spent my whole life being told by guidance counsellors that because I was smart I should concentrate in science (the humanities were for people who weren’t quite as smart).  (My field sits halfway between the humanities and the social sciences.  A generation ago it was just as male dominated as most sciences, but somehow we managed to have more success here.)  And I’ve always felt like I kind of betrayed the sisterhood for not trying to help break some barriers in the science realm.  I am fully aware that between my lack of ability and my lack of desire to be there I would have done more harm than good to the cause of women in science, and yet… I guess I just internalized too many criticisms.

Anyway, my knowledge of Lady Lovelace is limited, but I haven’t seen a single thing to indicate she would be rude to me (hell, in her day my field was classified as a science, so I might look better in her eyes than in my contemporaries).  We can easily avoid the subject of her daddy (I like his poetry, but I’m more than willing to recognize he was a douche.  And an f’ed up one at that).  I just think I’d feel like a loser the whole time.  Yes, I’m neurotic, but there it is.  So… I do want to buy her a drink, I just think I’ll let her and Cammy talk on their own.